Showing posts with label cycling powermeter saris cycleops power. Show all posts
Showing posts with label cycling powermeter saris cycleops power. Show all posts

Sunday, March 22, 2015

How do I Calibrate my Powertap G3 with my Garmin Computer?



I love the Powertap for it's ease of use, simplicity, and industry-leading price point for an accurate power unit. Powertap units, certainly the third generation of them, just work. They are robust, durable, and accurate.

As a Powertap retailer, the first question I invariably get from a customer who has just purchased a unit. The Powertap web site and documentation is surprisingly barren of any procedure for how it should be done on a Garmin, and in fact the data that the Garmin presents the user has changed recently in newer Garmin firmware, just because Garmin made it so. Powertap is a completely distinct company and has limited input in just how Garmin sets up its firmware and its calibration functions.

Here's my take on Calibrating a Powertap G3:

When you "calibrate" a Powertap on a Garmin, you are not in fact calibrating anything, you are just forcing the Garmin unit to recognize what a zero load condition looks like, i.e. manual zero, or zeroing the torque.

So the procedure is:
- spin your pedals backwards to wake up the hub
- run the calibrate routine in your Garmin (while not sitting on the bike or applying weight to the pedals)
- then go riding

Previous generations of Garmin firmware simply read the sensor ID rather than the calibration value. Newer Garmin firmwares give you the calibration number (usually around zero, see how its determined here), and the torque, which will be zero since you have no weight on the bike or pedals. The calibration number varies with temperature.

Now, Garmin units let you turn on a function called "autozero" which zeros the torque whenever you are coasting. If you have this set (which I recommend) you don't really need to "calibrate" since the unit is always resetting the torque to zero when you are coasting down hills.

So you would only need to calibrate the unit if the temperature changed a lot since the last "calibration" and you wanted to make sure the power was really accurate before the first time you coasted down a hill that day, which is when it would automatically autozero for the first time. So in reality, you never need to calibrate if you have autozero set, which is the beauty of PT, but I do just to check the calibration number is reasonable, maybe once a week.

Also, when I am training I have my Garmin screen set to show me 3 sec power (I find anything less is just too jumpy, that's the nature of power). When I am coasting downhill I check every now and then that it does indeed read zero (after 3 seconds obviously). Incidentally I also like to track Lap Power, Last Lap Power, and Max Power, if I'm doing intervals. The Garmin also lets you choose other time average intervals, like 5 minutes, which some people find useful.

If you're really keen and curious you can actually truly calibrate the unit (i.e. check the accuracy and precision) yourself using that torque value it gives you on the Garmin calibration screen.
Two very similar procedures to accomplish this are given here and here (this is also called a stomp test as it involves stomping on, or putting a weight on, the pedals).

For a ridiculous amount of information well beyond what an average user would need, you can always refer to the Slowtwitch Official Powertap thread.  Alex Simmons has also posted some interesting information at his blog here though it is not specific to using a Powertap with a Garmin head unit (which is what most people seem to use these days) but rather to the old Powertap "Little Yellow Computer," or LYC.

Edited 2 May 2017 with new link to Powertap calibration offset values.






Thursday, December 17, 2009

No power meter? Just use your home trainer!

While we wait for better and cheaper power meters to come on the market, what options do we have?  Ed has kindly demonstrated that the Sporttracks Power Analysis plug-in may actually be pretty accurate. Plus or minus 3%, wow!

Another way of quantifying power output and "getting a feel" for the numbers is to use a fluid trainer


The resistance in a fluid trainer is a function simply of speed; the faster you go, the more the resistance you get.  Magnetic trainers on the other hand use a variable resistance to provide adjustable resistance.  An advantage of this is that resistance can be programmed, so that you can simulate the ups and downs of your favourite ride, with video cues as well, turning it into a virtual reality trainer, such as those made by Tacx and Computrainer

The main disadvantage with magnetic trainers is that they don't really feel like riding on the road, which is why I like my CycleOps Fluid2 fluid trainer.  Turning the drum on this trainer with your rear wheel forces an impeller to turn in a sealed drum full of silicone liquid.  This, coupled with a flywheel, somehow manages to give somewhat of an acceleration and inertial feel of the open road. 


It turns out that fluid trainers have a fixed relationship between power and speed. Some manufacturers actually publish a curve, like this one for the Fluid2:






One company, Kurt Kinetic, actually makes a "Power Computer" which, if it actually measured power, would be by far the cheapest on the market, at USD $79.99.  Unfortunately, all it does is convert the speed signal to a power number based on the characteristic curve for their trainer unit.   Kurt Kinetic has even gone trough the trouble of determining characteristic curve equations for competing trainers, so you can use their computer with those.  Unfortunately, the equation they provide for the Fluid2 looks nothing like the curve above, leading me to believe that they must have used a much older unit.

Unfortunately, the nice folks at Saris, the maker of the Fluid2, haven't published a table or an equation that would allow me to easily determine my power given my speed on the trainer.  Perhaps this is because they would rather you buy their $2000 Powertap powermeter? Anyhow, I picked a few numbers off the graph above and put the numbers in an Excel Spreadsheet to find that the curve is very nicely modeled by a third-order polynomial equation.  This one:

y = 0.0115x3 - 0.0137x2 + 8.9788x

Where "y" is Power, and "x" is speed in MPH.

Adding a column for speed in KPH yields the following:

x
y
Speed
Speed
Power
kph
mph
W
0
                0  
0
1
              0.6
6
2
              1.2
11
3
              1.9
17
4
              2.5
22
5
              3.1
28
6
              3.7
34
7
              4.3
40
8
              5.0
46
9
              5.6
52
10
              6.2
58
11
              6.8
64
12
              7.5
71
13
              8.1
78
14
              8.7
85
15
              9.3
92
16
              9.9
99
17
             10.6
107
18
             11.2
115
19
             11.8
123
20
             12.4
132
21
             13.0
140
22
             13.7
150
23
             14.3
159
24
             14.9
169
25
             15.5
179
26
             16.2
190
27
             16.8
201
28
             17.4
213
29
             18.0
225
30
             18.6
237
31
             19.3
250
32
             19.9
264
33
             20.5
278
34
             21.1
292
35
             21.7
307
36
             22.4
323
37
             23.0
339
38
             23.6
356
39
             24.2
373
40
             24.9
391
41
             25.5
410
42
             26.1
429
43
             26.7
449
44
             27.3
470
45
             28.0
492
46
             28.6
514
47
             29.2
537
48
             29.8
561
49
             30.4
585
50
             31.1
611

And now I can "train with power" on my home trainer, without a power meter, as long as I move my speed sensor to my rear wheel.